He breached the peace by causing certain perfectly respectable law abiding citizens to become fearful for the safety of their family. – I’m thinking here about (for instance) the chap who sat in the court and related his fears for the safety of his Grandchildren...
Does anyone here really think Robert Green set out cause a man to worry about the safety of his Grandkids? - That he sought to cause fear or alarm or distress in the households of innocent people?
Unless you think Robert Green is attention-seeking for his own nefarious commercial ends, that seems quite absurd. And a logical defence would have been to challenge the basis on which the prosecution assert mens rea in such instances. – Robert’s intent clearly was to warn people in their own interests...
He went about it completely the wrong way of course! And a logical defence was never presented. So, it is on this fragile basis Robert Green was convicted
- What he wasn’t prosecuted for is naming anyone....
- What he wasn’t prosecuted for is recounting events with which these people were allegedly associated...
- What hasn’t happened is that the allegations relating to the Hollie Greig cases have been proved or disproved...
-What hasn't happened is that the people implicated in Hollie's abuse have been 'cleared.
For those tempted to ‘craw’ about how the verdict in the Robert Green trial proves anything or clears anyone I suggest you ‘haud yer wheesht’... The allegations made by Hollie Greig and supported by Robert Green haven’t gone away’ - not to any degree. – If anything, suspicion grows daily that all this smoke indicates a huge blaze is afoot and the half-million-pound mirrors deployed to deflect attention reflect incompetence, dishonesty and ultimately corruption.
Robert Green himself has acknowledged the dis-service this does to those against whom the allegations have been made. - If these matters had been properly investigated in the first place, none of this would have happened!
And like people caught in quicksand - the harder they have struggled to keep that first failure 'under wraps' the deeper they have sunk...
If anything, prosecuting Green in this manner suggests, in my view, that someone somewhere really didn’t want all this stuff looked at too closely and hoped that Green’s conviction would obfuscate the issue. However, as the gentleman who was so badly frightened said to the court “ until it was either proven or disproven, you never know about these things, do you?”
NO you don’t – that’s perfectly true. And that was always the real point...
Hollie Greig’s quest for justice is damaged by repeatedly naming names and making allegations all over the internet. It is damaged by a flow of un-redacted documents entering the public arena. The whole case is rendered un-reportable by it being associated with what most people perceive as ‘fairy stories’ about Witches and Satanists and Masons...
Greg Lance-Watkins, given his claimed ‘campaign credentials’, clearly knew this when he drove the case along that direction – I believe his agenda in doing that is clear and it has been exposed and explored in this blog...
The fact that there are still people within the campaign group naming names and plastering allegations all over the internet (especially when a mainstream piece is on the cards – as has happened several times now) tells me that group is either infested with brain-dead idiots, people with nefarious commercial interests in conspiracy theory or has yet again been infiltrated by someone like Watkins...
As I said a long time ago; it was just never going to be that Hollie’s case would get any kind of examination in the trial of Robert Green for breach of the peace... And that is why this relatively trivial trumped-up charge was used in my view.
Those behind his prosecution knew full well that, being a relatively minor offence it would be tried by summary process – That is no mere nicety or technical triviality. The whole point of summary process is that it is a form of mechanistic process that can almost be prosecuted by flowchart or algorithm.
Summary process is used for things like speeding tickets – did you exceed the speed limit or not? Answer yes and the verdict can’t be anything else but guilty unless a statutory defence is entered... Did you wilfully leave a shop with unpaid goods in your possession? Answer yes and you’re guilty of theft... A whole tale about being late for your Grandma’s funeral or stealing the Champagne because you needed to impress someone on which your financial future depended ( both, incidentally stories that have been laid before courts) – these things don’t alter the facts as entered by the prosecution...
I asked you at the beginning to consider what Robert Green wasn’t prosecuted for. – And he wasn’t prosecuted for anything more serious that Breach of the Peace. A charge that would ensure no Jury were present and that the Sheriff presiding over the case would be constrained within that process – that he is obliged by law to disallow matters not directly relevant to the matter of countering the prosecution’s evidence...
Robert Green foolishly played into their hands by attempting to circumvent that process. Legally, the Sheriff simply could not allow that to happen. And it seems to me obvious that somebody somewhere wants to make sure that the issues are never looked at closely enough for that to happen. – That is in my view; just in case the 'Arkell Vs Pressdram' response is unclear with those now sending lame emails thretening to sue me...
As one who lays the severest possible criticism at Robert Green’s feet in terms of his conduct and tactics I would highlight the following; making no apology for the repetition...
- What he wasn’t prosecuted for is naming anyone....
- What he wasn’t prosecuted for is recounting events with which these people were allegedly associated...
The allegations relating to the Hollie Greig cases have neither been proved or disproved. – In fact one FACT that emerged, and the solitary positive thing to emerge from the whole fiasco is that the Police investigation into Hollie’s claims was indeed wholly inadequate. In this respect, those behind this persecution, this abuse of power, must be hopping mad; shot quite squarely in the foot!
- As has been the case all through the persecution of Robert Green; all that has been achieved is to cause the light of suspicion burn more brightly towards the faces of those implicated in the Hollie Greig case – And we must consider particularly those in authority who seem to have had a hand in this..
In terms of his conduct and tactics Robert Green may be a bloody fool...
“But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning 'round.”
- And those corruptors of justice behind his persecution, behind the waste of public money and resources, behind the failure to serve Justice for the victims of sexual abuse, behind the actually failure that might cause us to become fearful for our children...
They would do well to pay heed to what the fool is pointing at...
